Why convicted criminals should love Ed Clements

If you've been to prison, have a criminal record, and live in either Florence or Marion County, 12th Circuit Solicitor Ed Clements has great news for you:

Attend his workshop in expungement and learn how to get your criminal record wiped clean, allowing you to brush your history under the rug and prey upon unsuspecting citizens.

When the Blogland received an email from a reader, announcing this event, we were surprised, to say the very least, that a Solicitor's office would be associated with this event:


Representative Terry Alexander and Solicitor Ed Clements, of the12th Judicial Circuit, in conjunction with SC Dept of Probation, Parole and Pardon Services, will sponsor an EXPUNGEMENT/PARDON WORKSHOP on Tuesday, 10:00AM March 30, 2010.

The purpose of this workshop is to disseminate information to the public regarding provisions in state law for the expungement of an arrest record or for the possibility of a pardon for a past criminal offense.

Those who have been hindered in life because of past mistakes are encouraged to attend and be educated about opportunities available under state law to remove potential road blocks for future advancement. The meeting will be held at: The Drs. Bruce and Lee Foundation Library, 509 South Dargan Street, Florence, SC 29506

If we all think hard enough, we may know someone that could benefit from ths workshop.

While it seemed odd that an office responsible for prosecution should be helping those they've convicted, we didn't want to jump to conclusions. To make sure we were on the right track, the Blogland contacted several current and former prosecutors around the state to get their take on this. The ones we'd spoken with all said this isn't something a Solictor's office does.

To us, it seems like a bad practice for a prosecutor's office and a raw deal for law-abiding Pee Dee residents and businesses, but a really great deal for convicted criminals.

We encourage our readers to show up at this event and voice their concerns.  They may also want to contact his opponent in this fall's elections - Rose Mary Parham - and ask her what she thinks.

18 Response to "Why convicted criminals should love Ed Clements"

  1. pluvlaw 25/3/10 15:52
    Did you bother to check and see exactly what expungments are and what kind of charges you can be expunged? Check 22-5-910. First offense convictions in magistrate or municipal courts, provided you go 3 years without reoffending, you can apply to have the record expunged. Certain offenses are exempted, such as offenses involving operating a vehicle (DUIs, speeding, reckless drivings), or CDVs. And you can't use it more than once.

    Maybe some people believe something like a simple assault or simple possession should follow someone around forever, but apparently the General Assembly doesn't. I certainly don't. The parents of the kids who come in and hire me when Jr. gets an open container at the Cup don't either.

    BTW, you have to go through the Solicitor's office to get an expungement. So the event that you don't think is good idea is actually pretty damn helpful. Why is it a bad idea that the Solicitor would want to educate the public about who can and cannot qualify to have records expunged? Why is it a bad idea that the Solicitor's office would educate the public about criminal law? It certainly would help reduce the workload to inform those that don't qualify ahead of time.

    It only "seems like a bad idea" to those that have absolutely no clue what they are talking about. Who have no experience with the criminal justice system. You have any idea who benefits from these things? Try your neighbors' kids. Try your kids. Ever been in a fight at school? Guess what, you get locked up for that crap now. And you get a criminal record. Should that continue to follow you around for ever?

    The idea that this is a bad thing is stupid. And it can only be spouted by someone who a) either has no knowledge of what actually goes on in the area of criminal justice; or, b) simply doesn't care and is willing to say whatever they can to try to score political points.

    I tell you what, the next time you don't want to jump to conclusions concerning a post that deals with criminal justice, how about try contacting someone who practices criminal defense. I realize you and others feel that somehow disqualifies me from being unbiased in a solicitor's race (which is itself crazy...we're the people who actually know who is good at this job), but feel free to give me a call.
  2. Anonymous 25/3/10 16:13
    Staff and former staff from three other circuits were contacted for this article. Each response said they have not done this, so Clements is the only one. None were supportive of this concept.

    Switching to my HR side ... I've used background checks to screen prospective hires. Those with a minor charge years back were cleared for hiring. Those with recent and numerous convictions were not. A lot of employers are smart enough to take background checks under advisement.
  3. Anonymous 25/3/10 16:40
    Speaking from personal experience, I think this idea is wonderful. Having gone through this process with a shoplifting kid and a 40 something year old adult who had a simple possession charge from 25 years ago, I would love to have had the information presented in this format so I could cut down on some time. A college graduate carrying a shoplifting "badge" for the rest of his life is not realsitic. Also, the 40+ YO pot smoker now witnessing to incarcerated teens about making the correct decisions desereved his pardon. Just because other solicitors weren't smart enough to think of it first, doesn't mean it's wrong. You are barking up the wrong tree on this issue.
  4. pluvlaw 25/3/10 17:25
    Well, Anonymous...if you're the "reporter" behind this uninformed post, I extend the offer to you. Before you submit a report that seeks to take shots at a field you obviously have no experience in, feel free to contact me.

    And the fact that other circuits haven't thought to do this or don't think its a good idea just show why we've got the best Solicitor's office in the State.
  5. Anonymous 25/3/10 18:15
    Y'all are so off target here. This is not a valid attack in this race. If Rose Mary were to win, she would HAVE TO process them too, as required by the General Assembly, if the person qualified. Quit trying to inflame the passions of those ignorant of the law and do something productive, like learn the law before you write about it.
  6. Earl Capps 25/3/10 18:35
    Two common rhetorical evasions are 1) evade the issue at hand and 2) attack the one asking questions. Both are evident in the comments.

    Accuse the author of being a tool of a candidate is one.

    The other is to divert attention away from the real issue: that Clemens is sponsoring the event, hence making taxpayers clean up the mess these people have made.

    Nowhere was it said that expungment should not be allowed, but rather that Clemens shouldn't be making people pay for it.
  7. pluvlaw 25/3/10 19:21
    Earl, where do you get that taxpayers are having clean up this mess? Expungements are paid for by those seeking them. They have to pay administrative fees and all filing fees. The taxpayer isn't being charged a dime.

    Let me be clear: I'm not calling whoever is responsible for this uniformed post a tool of any candidate. I'm just calling them a tool. Because they obviously have no clue what they are talking about. Whoever wrote the piece doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt, because they didn't take any time to actually ask questions themselves, other than questions that served their obviously biased view.
  8. Earl Capps 25/3/10 19:55
    P, go to the first paragraph of the email, where it says who is sponsoring the event. That might explain where it came from.
  9. pluvlaw 25/3/10 22:25
    It's a workshop. Here's how it works. Rep. Alexander wants to have a workshop for his constituents on cleaning up their criminal records. He asks his solicitor if he can send someone to speak about expungements. He asks Probation, Pardon & Parole if they can send someone to speak about Pardons. He finds a space where it can be hosted. They issue a press release. That's it.

    There ain't a whole hell of a lot of "cost" in this. It's these offices (the Solicitor's and Probation and Parole) sending someone over to speak to a crowd. Maybe hand out the same info sheets you would get if they come into your office.

    It's kind of like Reino "sponsoring" tonight's beers are Creekratz. He asked for attendance. He named the place. I showed up and paid for my own beer. There was no cost to the taxpayer.
  10. Earl Capps 25/3/10 22:29
    But there is a big difference. If it's sponsored by a Democratic Solicitor, it may not be all bad. But if Mike Reino's involved, there is something very evil at work.
  11. Mike Reino 26/3/10 21:39
    Hey, don't drag me into this... But no taxpayer money was spent at Creek Ratz last night, or at D&H BBQ tonight!
  12. Anonymous 27/3/10 00:40
    I'm for Mary because I'm tired of her having to fix the cases Clements screws up.
  13. Anonymous 28/3/10 10:33
    The point Earl is trying to make is that Clements is a great deal for criminals. If he doesn't screw up your case, then he'll wipe away the conviction. Not a bad deal when you think about it.
  14. pluvlaw 29/3/10 08:20
    And the point I'm making is that people who think this workshop is somehow a bad thing, don't understand what a solicitor's job really is. But it's apparent the actual job description or even the quality of job performance that is being done by our current Solicitor's office doesn't matter to some folks. All that matters is that Mrs. Parham is willing to let them put an "R" beside her name. So be it. I suppose we're gonna find out in November if that a solicitor makes.
  15. Stephanie 31/3/10 03:44
    So basically, what Patrick is saying is...let's first just let these CRIMINALS off with a slap on the wrist by our defense attorney Solicitor and then they can go hang with the solicitor and his Democrat Representative Alexander for a few hours and learn out to even get the slap on the wrist he gives them taken off of their record with an expungment. I just love how these defense attorneyes think no one should have to pay the consquences for what they do wrong in this world. I say they do the crime ...they do the time!

    Stephanie Rawlinson
  16. pluvlaw 31/3/10 09:04
    Oh, Stephanie...apparently I could hang out with you Republicans too. If only I would agree to let you call me Republican. Sadly, I must insist you accept me as I am: defense atty, commie, Gamecock fan.

    But hey...I hear Senator Graham supported that expungement meeting, as he had a representative there!
  17. Mal Weatherly 14/4/10 01:57
    Don't be an idiot, Stephanie! This is not a matter of anyone not doing the time. This is a matter of justice AND mercy! Of giving a second chance to someone who made a mistake or a bad choice at some point in their lives, but is trying to turn things around. This is about giving someone a second chance and not condeming them and/or punishing them for the rest of their lives for that mistake. Maybe you are too perfect to ever need a second chance, so you can't understand this. But most of us flawed humans do. Are you really so blinded by partisan politics that you can't understand that this is NOT some democratic ploy to undermine the legal system?! Are you and the other people commenting here trying to tell me that the Republican Party is against giving someone a second chance?! I've been a Republican all of my life, and God help us if that's who we've become!
  18. Jenny 24/9/10 12:10
    Expungment = hiding the truth

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