Kelly Pope, Family Court candidate - Seat One
South Carolina legislators, for the paltry sum of $12,000 a year, with a modest travel and expense allowance, get to travel the state and be away from home for a couple of nights a week five months of the year. That is if they're lucky.
In most states, serving in the legislature doesn't pay enough to pay the bills, so the question of "how DO they earn a living" is one which was recently examined in a study by the National Conference of State Legislatures, which found that nationally:Full-Time Legislators have now become the largest occupational group in legislatures with 16.4% of legislators classifying themselves as such. Previously, attorneys had been the largest occupational group but that profession has decreased substantially over the last three decades from about 25% in the mid-seventies to only about 15% today. Retired legislators make up the third largest occupational group in legislatures at approximately 12%.
Beaufort Senator Tom Davis may be wrapping up his first year in the Senate, but he’s no newcomer to state politics. He served as Chief of Staff for Governor Sanford, returning to Beaufort to defeat Senator Catherine Ceips in one of last year’s most high-profile legislative races.
The EFA funding formula for public education really hammers Beaufort County. Last year we paid $134 million in taxes that went into the EFA reallocation bucket and got nothing back – all of our tax dollars went elsewhere. No other county in the state received zero in EFA funds. The EFA funding formula is broken, primarily because other areas of the state have "gamed" the system to take their industrial property tax base off their assessment roles and out of the fund reallocation formula. Problem is, the money the state allocates for public education is fixed, which means that for every EFA dollar our county is able to get, some other area (or combination of areas) in the state will get one dollar less. So legislators from areas who benefit from the current formula dig their heels in, regardless of the inequity. As state senator for Beaufort County, it is my job to get this thing fixed, and I need to advance every single possible legal argument and to make every single policy argument and to develop every single alliance with other legislators that I can. Other counties are also shafted by the EFA formula (though not as much as Beaufort County is). If I can get legislators from those other counties – Charleston and Horry, for example – to realize that this unfair formula shortchanges their constituents millions of dollars, perhaps a change can be leveraged. I know I can do it alone; I need allies.
This year, Republican Senator Larry Martin marks his 30th year of legislative service. Beginning his career in the House, he was elected to the Senate in 1992. Representing Pickens County, where he grew up, in the Senate, he chairs Rules Committee.
After so many years serving in Columbia, do you have any plans to hang it up and retire in the near future?
House District 114 covers a lot of historic ground in the Lowcountry. As the current House Speaker, District 114’s State Rep. Bobby Harrell has the chance to make his own mark on state history. Representing the district since 1992, he worked his way to the top, serving as House Majority Leader and Chairman of Ways and Means before becoming Speaker four years ago when former Rep. David Wilkins decided to accept an ambassadorship to Canada. Recently, he agreed to chat with the Blogland, so we threw a few questions his way.
I say “we” because Cathy and I have always been a team, and she has always been my most important political advisor.
3) We were told that your family and faith are important to you. How do they influence how you approach politics?
This is one seriously busy guy, so we appeciate his taking us up on our invitation to do an Inside Interview. Let's see what he has to say for himself:
On the local level, the Sumter Delegation consolidated the two Sumter County school districts into one last year. I hope this brings efficiency, accountability, and increased opportunities to students in Sumter County. A last stand of one of the school districts against consolidation was an attempt to construct a $3.5 million administrative building for a district that will only be in existence two more years. I, with the rest of the delegation, worked hard to prevent the construction of the building. Last week, a committee created and appointed by the delegation voted against the construction of the building. This signifies a true victory for the taxpayers of Sumter County. It is my hope that the laying to rest of the building will allow the committee’s and the delegation’s focus to shift to that of the success of the consolidated school district.
3) What issues would you like to see receive greater attention?
4) You live in a region which is well-known for BBQ. Got any recommendations for us?
McCabe’s BBQ in Clarendon County- hands down. I do represent a portion of Clarendon County so I am still on home turf here. Next, we (Sumter) have a small BBQ place run outside of a man’s home, Maple’s BBQ. It is truly one of the best-kept BBQ secrets in Sumter County. I also have a liking for Ward’s hash- also found in Sumter. When I venture outside of Sumter or Clarendon County, I cannot pass up a trip to Brown’s BBQ in Kingstree.
5) What are your thoughts about new media, such as bloggers?
Bloggers have created an added dimension to news sources across not only South Carolina but also the nation, and have brought much transparency to state politics, which is always good for the system. It has broadened the scope of news media, as a whole, from the state house in ways that are good, bad, and ugly. It has created a heightened scrutiny for those of us who serve. I always say, “Sunshine is the best disinfectant.” I believe that blogs have brought a lot of sunshine to the state house, which can only be positive for the state.
6) What are you looking most forward to this session?
Surprisingly, this is not a political answer. While I am excited about all events and issues going on at the Statehouse this Session, the event I am looking most forward to, first and foremost, is the birth of my first child, a little girl, at the end of April!
From lakefront recreation to lush forests and rolling fields, history-laden State House District 41 encompasses a lot of wonderful country in Chester and Fairfield Counties. There are a lot of nice drives through there - River Road along Lake Wateree, US 321 from Chester to Winnsboro, or SC 34 right across the district - that we'd recommend if you've got free time on a weekend.
Well, my first day on the job, Thad Viers kept eyeballing me. He finally walked over and said "weren't you a page?" (I was for Creighton in 2005 and Senator Short in 2007) For the first couple of weeks, that was a common misconception, but over time it's beginning to improve. I had to pull out my ID to prove I was a member last week, and another member asked me to make some copies. I don't mind any of this... I'm just a Freshman.
Considered by many to be a rising star in the state Democratic Party, State Senator Joel Lourie is a man to watch. To paraphrase Shakespeare, such men may be considered dangerous, but here in the Blogland, they’re considered darn good subject material.
His family has long ties to the Midlands and the Lowcountry. His father, Isadore Lourie, spent about two decades in the Senate from Richland County and was a major backer of CofC’s Jewish Studies Center. Not only that, but his family has a broad presence in the history of Charleston, including the Rittenberg family, for whom Sam Rittenberg Boulevard (SC Route 7) was named.My mom and dad taught me from an early age that politics should be about bringing people together to solve problems. Both have had tremendous influence on who I am as a person and legislator. My dad taught me through example the importance of working with members of both parties to get things done. I remember in 1984, two of his close friends and Democratic colleagues from Richland County lost their Senate seats to Republicans. Shortly after the election, Dad invited the victors, Senators Warren Giese and John Courson, to his office. He wanted them to know that although they had just defeated his good friends, they all had a responsibility to work together for the betterment of our community and state. He said he would help them in any way possible.
He displayed this same practice of bi-partisanship years later when he went from having an adversarial relationship with Governor Carroll Campbell to one of friendship and mutual respect. This left quite an impression on me as today I enjoy close alliances with members of both parties at the Statehouse.
Regarding our differences, others could speak to this better than me. He was the “real Senator Lourie” and if I accomplish half of what he did, I will have served my state well.
One thing I have learned while serving in the legislature is that we are all microcosms of our districts. I represent a mostly suburban area where people are informed about what is happening at the Statehouse, understand the importance of supporting public schools and want their tax dollars spent efficiently. My constituents are very moderate and independent in their political thinking. This also describes my approach and hopefully people know that I think through and research issues very carefully. I understand that neither party has a monopoly on good ideas, and I have little tolerance for partisan bickering.
I have the honor of representing some of the finest school districts in the state. A major priority in the next legislative session will be to make sure that public education funding doesn’t suffer in this unstable economy. Also, growth has caused incredible road and infrastructure challenges and our state must deal with this issue sooner than later.
Other priorities for me in the legislature will be to rein in or ban payday lending and get an agreement on the cigarette tax. I will also continue to push for access to healthcare options like the bill I authored which requires insurance companies to keep young adults on their parent’s policies until age 25. This legislation passed the Senate last year but not the House.
I think we have both a moral and legal responsibility to address the needs of the poor rural school districts. I have personally visited many of these schools and the conditions in some are deplorable. This crisis needs to be more of a priority. We need a coalition of legislators from across the state that can see beyond the boundaries of their own districts and think about the future of our state as a whole. People sometimes wonder why we have high dropout, unemployment and incarceration rates, and why a high percentage of our states’ population is on Medicaid. I believe that providing a quality education to all students in South Carolina will result in a significant reduction in these areas.
Also, as I referenced earlier, access to healthcare is perhaps the greatest domestic challenge we face in this state and country today. In South Carolina, close to 15% of our citizens have no health insurance and given current economic conditions, it is likely this figure will increase in years to come. We must come together and look at more ways to close this gap.
And, I want to see greater collaboration between our business community, the Legislature, the Commerce Department and our education system. When we pursue economic development opportunities, we need to have a better understanding of how workforce education and training relates to job creation. I question if we are meeting the needs of new and existing businesses. I know we have made progress on this front but I think we can do more.
My priorities right now include raising two teenagers with my wife Becky, serving in the Senate to the best of my ability and running a small business. Two years is a long way off and there is plenty of time to speculate on the future later.
Through no fault of his own, he was born in Michigan; however, his family moved to South Carolina when he was two years old, allowing him to maintain that he is truly a Southerner at heart. He grew up in North Charleston, and in 1980 graduated with a Bachelor of Science degree from the Baptist College at Charleston, which is now known as Charleston Southern University. He graduated from the University of South Carolina School of Law in 1983 with the degree of Juris Doctor, and with the degree of Master of Judicial Studies from the University of Nevada, Reno in 2000 …
Roger also served as a Municipal Judge for the City of North Charleston from 1988-90. He was elected to the South Carolina House of Representatives in 1990 and served two terms. He was Master-in-Equity for Charleston County from 1996 until he replaced Judge Vic Rawl on the Circuit Court bench upon his retirement on July 1, 2003 …
Through an odd confluence of interstellar events, Roger has received an honorary Doctor of Humane Letters from the University of Charleston in 1992, was appointed an Honorary Kentucky Colonel by Gov. Brereton C. Jones in 1993, and was awarded the Order of the Palmetto by Gov. Carroll A. Campbell in 1994.
A patient and dignified Circuit Court Judge who does not take himself too seriously, and uses common sense on the bench every week.
Making a lot of money has never really been a motivating factor in my life, and I found through being in the state legislature that I enjoy public service. Serving in the General Assembly was a wonderful experience; however, I'm not cut out for that job. I have a special appreciation for those that do it and enjoy it, but constantly driving up the road to Columbia and always running for re-election is not my cup of tea.
There is nothing like being a circuit court judge to have something new to deal with every day. I consider myself one of those fortunate people who look forward to going to work every day, although there are some days it flat wears you down, but I suppose that is true of every job.
Every judge brings their own unique perspective to the bench, so while I would say it gives me a different perspective, I do not want to imply that it makes me a better judge than my colleagues, because some of the best have never served in the legislature. I would say the experience made me a better citizen. I think everyone should run for office at some point in time (as long as they don't run against me). It will humble you to have to go out and ask people for their vote.
The case load for circuit court judges is the highest in the nation and is getting worse. While the legislature has authorized three new circuit court positions, they have not funded them in several years. We are trying to manage our dockets so that people don't have to wait years to get their case heard, but you can only squeeze so much.
We also now have two law schools in this state graduating twice the number of new lawyers. That has to have an effect on the number of case filings. Technology can only get us so far. You have to have a body on the bench to hear the case at some point.
We are trying to more cases resolved through alternatives to trial by jury, such as mediation and arbitration, but the sheer volume means that there are still a lot of cases left on the trial roster. In addition, those cases that do not resolve themselves are increasingly complex and demand more pre-trial attention from the judges, who cannot be in two places at one time.
I am filing for re-election this fall. That election will be early next year. I enjoy what I do immensely and have no foreseeable desire to seek an appellate court position. I may change my mind one day. However, I have set on the Supreme Court twice when justices have been sick or on vacation, and while it was a great experience, but left me wondering if I wanted to read briefs and transcripts all day.
I like the interaction with people you get as a trial court judge, especially with juries. I think the combination of the adversarial process and a trial by jury is the best system for settling conflicts ever devised by man.
I started judging barbeque the minute I ate at Sweatman's 30 years ago in college. That's the gold standard for what a commercial barbeque joint should be, in my humble opinion. However, competition barbeque is something else entirely. I started judging at the local Prestigious Palmetto Pig-Pickin' in Charleston over ten years ago, and look forward to it every year. It's grown and become quite a well-respected event. The quality of barbeque produced by the competitors is very high.
Believe it or not, the hardest part of judging competition barbeque is to not over-eat early. You can't eat more than a very, very small amount because you will probably be eating 15-20 samples within a few hours. I learned the hard way.
As for commercial places, locally Fiery Ron's Home Team and Jim and Nick's are putting out some outstanding barbeque. I recently tried a new place in North Charleston off East Montague called The Barbeque Place and it showed great promise. I also held court in Moncks Corner this week and tried a new place called Moose's BBQ. It was very good and had an outstanding beef brisket, which you don't find much of in this area of the country. The owner, Moose, wandered around place constantly checking on his customers and chatting people up. It was a fun experience.
Candidly, growing up in the low country I have a soft spot for any of the Bessinger brothers' places when you just need to scratch an itch and eat a good sandwich and onion rings. There is a branch of Brown's BBQ in Moncks Corner that is really good. Finally, there are branches of the ubiquitous Dukes BBQ in Beaufort and Ridgeland that serve fried chicken gizzards on their buffet which earns them an honorable mention for that fact alone.
Man, I could talk about bbq all day.
I have a friend in New Orleans who has one of the oldest law related blogs (as well as one of the most respected) called ernietheattorney.net. He covers much more than law, and often writes about computers, photography, philosophy, yoga, food and his mistress - the City of New Orleans. He is commercial law litigator who frequently lectures around the country on law and computers. He is partially responsible for my converting to Apple computers a few years ago, and he operates a truly paperless office out of his home. A cool guy to hang out with.
Until it recently shut down, I thought FakeSteveJobs, a blog satire about Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, was pure genius. You helped to be an Apple fan to really appreciate it, but it was fabulous satire, and anyone who follows the computer industry could appreciate it. I hope it comes back.
I listen to some podcasts daily while I walk since I'm not much of a music fan. A couple are, again, Apple related, but I also enjoy Dennis Miller's re-broadcast of his radio show. By now you've figured out I'm a big Apple computer fan, and love having an Apple store in Charleston. I also am grateful that SC Public Radio podcasts Walter Edgar's Journal. I'd never be able to listen to it otherwise. Those broadcasts are wonderful for those that love to learn about this state, and Walter shares my love of all things barbeque.
First, judges do a lot more than sit on the bench and listen to trials. In fact, when you are serving a year as Chief Administrative Judge like I currently am, it is probably less than half of what I do most days. There is a never-ending mound of paperwork as CAJ.
I suppose most people would be surprised at how difficult it can be to sentence people, or perhaps I should state more correctly, fashion an appropriate sentence. Every person is different, and the vast majority of people are not evil, horrible people. If you stop and think about it, the relative rarity of brutal, violent crimes is why they are newsworthy when they happen. Instead, most of the people who come before the courts have wrecked their lives with drugs and alcohol, and we are dealing with crime which is either directly or indirectly associated with it. You can toss them in jail and throw away the key - and sometimes you have to do that - but most of them are eventually going to get out of prison, and as a society it is in our best interest to figure out some way to turn them into productive citizens as opposed to hardened criminals. I don't have the answer. I just deal with the problem.
Sentencing young people really is heartbreaking. Young people make so many mistakes, and every time I see one infront of me I envision one of my children. I can only imagine how their parents must feel. A sad fact of life is that far too many young people don't even have a family member that comes to courts with them. It takes no imagination to guess how they got there. Sadly, they are often parents themselves, and have no skills or education by which they are reasonably going to get a decent paying job or become a responsible parent. You wonder what chance their children have to succeed. It's a cycle that seems to have no end.
As part of the Blogland’s ongoing efforts to expose our readers to the wide range of movers and shakers in South Carolina through our Inside Interview series, we wanted to introduce our readers to the Midland’s own Erin Gaddy. She’s a career prosecutor who is currently working with the National District Attorneys Association, focusing on issues related to the abuse of the elderly and disabled. Prior to that, she spent four years as an Assistant Solicitor in the Midlands.2) For attorneys, a career in prosecution isn’t always the best-paying route, so we’ll assume you don’t do it for the money. What do you personally find to be the biggest rewards associated with your work?I instantly liked criminal law (although it was probably my lowest grade in school), and tried both prosecution and defense. Social justice is a very important concept in the Catholic church, and my mother really emphasized it in our lives. I thought I might wind up a public defender, but it was quickly apparent that the people with the power to do the most justice were on the prosecution side. I believe we need great attorneys on both sides of the criminal courtroom, and have always felt like my place was on the side of the State.
3) Tell us a little bit about what kind of work you do in your current position.When I was working in the courtroom, every night I could lay my head on my pillow with a clean conscience. I knew that I had done something good for someone every day, even when I’d just pushed paper on my desk or answered hone calls. That’s a pretty great reason to go to work every morning. I’d love it if both prosecutors and public defenders were paid better, in order to keep more of them in the profession long-term.
4) Since a lot of your work in recent years has focused upon protecting those, such as the elderly, who can’t protect themselves, what do you see as the most important trends out there?I’m involved with a Federally-funded project through the U.S. Department of Justice, Office on Violence Against Women (OVW). There are three prongs of the training currently (for law enforcement, judges, and prosecutors), and training for victim advocates and adult protective services workers is coming soon. I work with an incredible faculty from all over the nation to put on the OVW training for prosecutors on elder abuse and neglect. I’m not generally at the front of the room, but in the background, making sure the curriculum is running as it should. I have a lot of help, but ultimately I‘m responsible for the education these prosecutors receive.
We use a multi-disciplinary faculty consisting of prosecutors, medical doctors, mental health specialists, adult protective services workers, and victim advocates. Law enforcement experts on elder abuse were also involved in the development of the project. I also run a listserv for the trainees and faculty, plus offer technical assistance to prosecutors on elder abuse.
5) You're a Midlands native. For those who doubt that claim, we'll ask you to prove it by naming at least two good places to go for BBQ.It’s an incredibly vibrant time for the prosecution and prevention of elder abuse, so I’d prefer to focus on some positive trends. Because of increased awareness, we’re seeing much more reporting of elder abuse by community members and family members of victims, as well as more victims being willing to report for themselves.
It’s important to remember that in many states, 55-60 is “elderly,” which most people who have reached that age wouldn’t call themselves. Our elders are active community members who are demanding fair and equal treatment under the law. We talk about elder abuse being in a similar place as domestic violence was 30 years ago, where people are really interested in stopping it, but not entirely sure what they can do.
I’ve been very impressed with efforts from the Lieutenant Governor’s Office, as you mentioned. The more we can do to enforce the laws that are already on the books, the better off our elders will be. If each of our legislators simply thought about how they’d like their parents, grandparents, or themselves to be treated, I think we’d likely be in very good shape with our laws. There are great model laws out of Wisconsin and California, which of course is on the forefront of this issue. Florida and New York are also states to look to for instruction.
Doc's on Shop Road and Little Pigs up on Alpine Road.
6) As our final question – the Blogland loves to talk about music, so we’re going to ask you to name your favorite album(s) and/or artist(s).
For recent music, I’m a little obsessed with Corinne Bailey Rae’s debut album, but the classics still draw me: Joni Mitchell’s Wild Things Run Fast, and pretty much anything by CSNY or James Taylor.
Our Inside Interview this week takes a look at State Representative Phillip Lowe, who holds the Pee Dee region's House District 60, which reaches from the outskirts of Sumter up to the west side of Florence, roughly following U.S. Highway 76 (does one get their kicks on that Route as well?). He's a Republican who resides in Florence County, and is finishing his first term. He was elected with 60% of the vote to succeed retiring Republican Marty Coates.
Charlie Lybrand is a veteran of nearly twenty years of GOP politics. Behind Senator Glenn McConnell and Sheriff Al Cannon, he’s one of the longest continually-serving Republicans in office in the Lowcountry. He started out on Charleston County Council, and in 1994, upset the incumbent RMC in the Republican Primary. Charlie is currently serving his 4th term in this office.
We attend Seacoast West where I am very active in the First Touch Ministry. I have been to Honduras 5 or 6 times on mission trips and I went with our church to help out in Pass Christian, Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina. I am also President of the Low Country Miata Club. We have a 2006 Black MX5 Miata.